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We talk a lot about the spiritual side of church leadership—and we should. Prayer, preaching, discipleship, vision. That’s the heart of what we do.
But there are also things under the ministry that quietly determine whether the mission is protected or vulnerable. Systems. Structures. Stewardship decisions most pastors inherit, delegate, or avoid altogether.
That’s why I recorded a conversation I think every church leader should hear.
In this Leadership Essentials interview, I sit down with Eric Moland (church insurance broker and local church guy) and Michael Mullen (health & benefits specialist) to talk about two topics most pastors never went to school for—but are still responsible for:
• Church insurance
• Health benefits for pastors and staff
This isn’t a sales pitch. It’s a demystifying conversation.
We talk about:
Why insurance isn’t just a cost—it’s armour
How many churches are unknowingly underinsured (and what that really costs when something goes wrong)
Why the cheapest option is often the riskiest
What a broker is actually supposed to do (and why many don’t)
How to think about health benefits as pastoral care, not payroll math
Why income replacement and disability matter more than most leaders realize
How the Church Help Health Benefits Plan is making coverage accessible for smaller churches and Christian businesses across Canada
What struck me most wasn’t the policies or the numbers—it was the stories. Pastors finally able to take all their kids to the dentist. Leaders no longer carrying quiet anxiety about “what happens if I get hurt.” Churches protecting their people and their witness.
This is leadership work. Not flashy—but faithful.
If you’re a pastor, board member, executive pastor, or business leader who cares about stewardship, this conversation will serve you.
👉 Watch the full interview here:
If you want to connect directly with Eric Moland, even just to get some great free advice from a local church, insurance guy… CLICK HERE
Want to learn more about our CHURCHELP HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN?
CLICK HERE … and Michael will follow up with you directly!
As always, you don’t have to carry leadership alone. My hope is that this conversation helps you ask better questions, build a stronger table, and lead with greater peace.
Grateful for you,
P.S. If this raises questions for you, reach out. Wise leadership isn’t knowing everything—it’s knowing who to call!
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